fpod
two nights ago while placing chips at the roulette table I put a $100.00 black chip on the courtesy line for 0-00. the dealer picked it up, tossed it back to me, waved his arm and said 'no more bets'. the ball landed in 00. I inquired, he said max bet is $75.00.. i was upset. he called the pit boss over and the pb sided with the dealer. the max wager was/is posted on a card on the table near the wheel. $75.00. okay, at least i didn't lose the black chip. i played two more spins and walked away a couple of hundred ahead. but now i'm thinking if max bet is $75.00 and i placed a $100.00 chip on the courtesy line for splitting the 0-00 wouldn't that be $50.00 on each the 0 and the 00?
side notes: the spin previous to the one in question i won $425.00 and the dealer paid me with black chips. took place in Laughlin. was having good day/night. I've never bet that much on a single spin before that night. i play there a lot. the dealers, supervisors and i all know each other and get along.
with the state of mind i was in by not having just won $1800.00 i didn't think of the split-max bet-$100.00 in half is less than $75.00 argument. until now; roughly 38 hours later.
i would appreciate some thoughts, insight, clarity. thanx, fpod

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rdw4potus
A lot of times, you can't wager with chips that are denominated over the table max even if it's a split wager that would otherwise be possible. That said, unless you were leaving, the dealer should never have paid you in black. It makes you less likely to re-bet and lose back the money you just won.
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chickenman
Pretty tacky but as noted perhaps they don't allow denomination over the max. Presumably you could have bet 4 greens to get the same difference. Win should be 17:1 = $1700.
Most max bets at Roulette I've seen are $200. Where was this grind joint anyway?
rob45
Courtesy line is a split bet.
'Split' bets are separate bets from 'straight up' bets.
We cannot have our cake and eat it, too.
If you wanted to consider your $100 split bet as 'two straight bets', then the house could justifiably say that $75 dollars straight up on '0' in conjunction with $75 on the '0-00' split exceeds table limits (with your logic, your straight bet on the '0' would then be $112.50).
FleaStiff
Usually the call would be 'accepted up to max bet limit'... then the determination is made: How much did you bet, how much of it will be accepted as a bet and how much will be returned to you, but this is from my experience at Craps, not roulette. It often happens at a craps table that the crew have no desire to slow down the dice. So if anyone plops down a 'barber's pole' of chips on a certain bet, the box or the stick will call out this precautionary warning that basically translates 'when the dice stop and we are going to count those chips and allow whatever is allowable, but only up to the understood limits.'
rob45

Usually the call would be 'accepted up to max bet limit'... then the determination is made: How much did you bet, how much of it will be accepted as a bet and how much will be returned to you, but this is from my experience at Craps, not roulette. It often happens at a craps table that the crew have no desire to slow down the dice. So if anyone plops down a 'barber's pole' of chips on a certain bet, the box or the stick will call out this precautionary warning that basically translates 'when the dice stop and we are going to count those chips and allow whatever is allowable, but only up to the understood limits.'

I agree that this practice is customary, and I will add that it has traditionally extended to all table games, not just craps.
With that in mind, we should remember that rulings, policies, and procedures are always at the mercy of the 'powers that be'.
Here is an example:
My sister lives in northern Indiana, and I usually try to hit the various 'riverboat' casinos up there when I visit her.

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I was playing Blackjack at the Horseshoe in Hammond, and one of the other players was betting the table maximum.
During previous visits, the dealer callout was always something like 'take or pay to table max', the hand was dealt, and the bet settled after the hand. (If the bet won, it was paid up to the maximum; if the bet lost, only the maximum amount was taken.)
On this latest visit, the dealer actually had to break down the bet prior to dealing the hand and prove that it did not exceed the table maximum.
I asked a supervisor about this, and she stated that one of their sister properties in the southern portion of the state had an unfavorable ruling against them.
Apparently, a player had placed a $50k bet whenever the max was $15k. The bet won, and the player felt that since the house allowed the bet in the first place, he should be paid the full amount. The player appealed to the gaming commission, and the commission ruled in his favor.
Because of this ridiculous ruling, all of the casinos in that state now prove the bets are within table limits before action continues.
Disclaimer: I do not know if this was an actual occurrence, the accuracy of her statement, or if the supervisor was using it as an excuse. But I do know that even properties not related to each other seem to follow this same procedure on all table games.
fpod
not sure what you mean. there was just one black $100.00 chip. theoretically(I think) it could have been split 60/40, 30/70 etc. my other chips were green $25.00 placed inside and 19-36. I don't see $112.50.
it happened quickly once the dealer noticed the black chip. there was no communication until he tossed it backed and ball landed in 00.
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fpod
thanx. I've tossed chips towards dealer and called various numbers and he/she would place them for me. sometimes after the ball has landed. I understand the craps side . happens all the time. more so on crowded tables. but this was placed by me. he called 'no more bets' immediately after he grabbed my chip and tossed it back.
I would have liked the payoff but I am just wondering if $100.00 placed on split courtesy line over the table max bet. I have played hundreds of times thru the years and have always been paid @ 17 to 1. by the way I didn't do this intentionally. I didn't know the max was $75.00. thanx again
chickenman
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theoretically(I think) it could have been split 60/40, 30/70 etc. my other chips were green $25.00 placed inside and 19-36. I don't see $112.50.
it happened quickly once the dealer noticed the black chip. there was no communication until he tossed it backed and ball landed in 00.


No, two number bets are 17:1. Given you were betting green inside it boils down to poor treatment by the pit IMNSHO.
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